According to the DfT, in 2009, 2,222 people were killed on the roads. 500 of them were pedestrians, 104 were cyclists, 472 motorcyclists and 1,059 car occupants.
By contrast, about 0.5 people per year are killed by cyclists. (One per two years or so.) A pedestrian is much, much more likely to be killed by a motorist mounting the pavement. Which is why this part of the article made me lolsob:
The Conservative MP said: "Imagine if a motorist had mounted the pavement and killed a schoolgirl as she chatted to her friends.
"The motorist would have felt the full force of the law and there would have been a national outcry if such a person had walked away with a fine."
The full force of the law, eh?
Just like John Ashbrook felt the full force of the law after he hit Adrianna Skryzypiec and dragged her for 140m, killing her. No further action taken.
Just like Joao Lopes, who felt the full force of the law after he crushed Eilidh Cairns to death. Fined £200.
Just like Robert Harris, who felt the full force of the law after he skidded into the Rhyl cycling club on three bald tyres, killing four of them. Fined £180.
Just like Keith Wilson, full force of the law again for careless driving in which a cyclist was killed. £150 fine.
Just like Michael Thorn, who crushed Emma Foa with his lorry. £300 fine.
Yeah. Like the MP says, just imagine if that had been a motorist. He wouldn't have been fined nearly so much as £2,200.
Edit: Thanks to Honest John of YACF who pointed out that the victim was actually on the road, not the pavement. It doesn't excuse the cyclist, who could and should have slowed down, but it does make the MP's comments factually inaccurate.
"Move 'cos I'm not stopping"
(Anonymous)
2011-03-22 02:06 pm (UTC)
Much like the pavement accusation, this seems to have arisen from the media furore around the case. I can't provide you with a transcript (or even a link) but I distinctly remember hearing that it was something like a throwaway comment in the prosecutor's introduction that the papers seized upon.
This case has often made me uneasy since on a couple of the routes I ride regularly, it would not be unusual to pass drunks (or even non-drunks) who might play chicken. Would I try and kill one, obviously not - but I can easily imagine hitting one as I tried to get past and ending up pilloried.
Re: "Move 'cos I'm not stopping"
2011-03-22 02:17 pm (UTC)
The evidence was also that the group of kids had had a can or two of lager each. I think they got painted as scaryeevil drunken feral yoof just as much as the cyclist got painted as a pavement cycling yobbo.
Death by dangerous cycling
(Anonymous)
2011-03-22 06:29 pm (UTC)
Pingu
Death by careless driving
(Anonymous)
2011-03-22 07:36 pm (UTC)
The driver was never prosecuted.
2011-03-22 08:16 pm (UTC)
2011-03-23 12:22 pm (UTC)
I mean, that Conservative MP you're citing may be a bicycle-hating git, or they may be genuinely ignorant of the situation as it stands, and be appalled by the failure of the law to follow up on so very many cases. They'd certainly find it hard to justify double standards to the House.
But I see the debate was yesterday. Ah well. If it comes up again...
Pedestrian casualties on the pavement.
(Anonymous)
2011-03-24 07:51 am (UTC)
"The motorist would have felt the full force of the law and there would have been a national outcry if such a person had walked away with a fine." [end quote]
If only this were true. The trouble is that the facts show that motorists can kill cyclists and pedestrians and regularly escape serious penalty with only trivial fines.
Finding data for prosecutions is difficult.
As for killing pedestrians on the pavement, let's look at the figures.
These are figures for pedestrian deaths on the pavement.
Between 1998 and 2009, that's twelve years:
Cyclists killed 3* pedestrians on the pavement.
Motor-vehicles killed 862* pedestrians on the pavement.
It's pretty clear that while 3 deaths are tragic, they pale in significance with the 862.
Death by motor-vehicle is so commonplace that it isn't reported. Death by cyclist is news and provokes a media feeding-frenzy. It's dog bites man versus man bites dog.
*Assumes that 10% of pedestrian casualties occur on the 'pavement or verge', as was the case in 2007-2008. Source DfT
Jason Howard had a poor lawyer
(Anonymous)
2011-04-11 06:19 pm (UTC)
See page 105 of "Richard's New Bicycle Book" where it is specifically recommended to charge at a member of the group as fast as possible, since they will jump out of your way and you can pass unscathed. Unless, maybe, they've been drinking. Jason Howard even shouted a warning.
Re: Jason Howard had a poor lawyer
2011-04-14 07:47 pm (UTC)